The short answer
For most early-stage exploratory meetings — introductory calls, first investor pitches, initial vendor discussions — you do not need an NDA. The information shared at this stage is typically high-level and not specific enough to warrant one.
Why investors often won't sign pre-meeting NDAs
Asking a VC or angel investor to sign an NDA before a first meeting is almost universally refused — and for good reason. Investors see dozens of pitches per month. Many will hear from multiple founders working on similar problems. Signing NDAs for every pitch would create legal landmines.
When you absolutely should have a pre-meeting NDA
There are genuine situations where a pre-meeting NDA is the right call:
- Technical due diligence with a strategic acquirer — if a potential buyer wants to examine your codebase, formulations, or proprietary processes before making an offer, get an NDA signed first.
- Sharing customer data or PII — any meeting where you'll show real customer records or usage data should be covered by an NDA (and likely a DPA as well).
- Discussing a patentable invention — public disclosure can start the clock on your patent filing deadline. An NDA creates a barrier that, while imperfect, supports your non-disclosure argument.
- Strategic partnerships where both parties share competitive roadmaps — here a mutual NDA makes sense before the detailed discussion.
What a meeting NDA should cover
A meeting-specific NDA (sometimes called a 'confidential disclosure agreement' or CDA) should clearly define:
- The purpose of the meeting (limits what counts as 'confidential information shared in this context')
- A definition of confidential information (e.g., marked as confidential, or all technical information shared in the meeting)
- What the recipient can and cannot do with it
- Standard carve-outs: publicly available info, independently developed info, info received from third parties
- Duration of the obligation (1–3 years is typical for a meeting NDA)
Alternatives to a pre-meeting NDA
If an NDA would create friction but you still want some protection, consider these approaches:
- Share only the minimum — describe the concept, not the mechanism. Explain the problem and result, not the proprietary method that achieves it.
- File a provisional patent first — a US provisional patent application (PPA) is inexpensive and gives you 12 months of 'patent pending' status. You can then disclose more freely.
- Document who was in the room — an email immediately after the meeting summarising 'we discussed X under an expectation of confidentiality' creates a paper trail even without a formal NDA.